> Communications are Commonwealth acts.
Fair enough, but isn't the definition of child porn different for each state? Or is there also a federal definition?
Nah, more like for each country – which is something else needing addressing in the long run.
To play it safe I propose that come the "New World Order" and "Global Community" being called for by everyone from Bush to Obama to Blair to Brown (etc, etc), the age of adulthood and sexual consent all over the globe should be bumped back up to 21 again (from where it was for much of the Western World in the 1950s and early 60s) which would no doubt render most existing pr0n as being CP with a stroke of a pen.
regarDS
Saturday, January 17, 2009
Thursday, January 15, 2009
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt23
"You wish to restrict the very thing that is vastly improving our society for the better?"
Not in the slightest - it is the very thing I've been consistently arguing for because after all, for a successful and functioning society to remain that way requires continually RESTRICTING in various ways that which is detrimental to it.
Permitting "anything goes" does not a successful society make, so in order to improve our society for the better it only stands to reason that restrictions and regulations continue to be brought to bear upon virtually everything our society uses, which obviously must include our communication systems which are obviously currently able to be grossly mis-used ... and to the obvious detriment of us all at that when one considers the ancient observation and promise that "righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people", and all that.
In short, I'm all for making Oz a more righteous nation and society and for attempts to be made to prevent the spread and flow of that which poisons and corrupts our society (and clearly ILCF is one such attempt), but I'm also all for that which might also see Krudd's government ousted after but a single term ... I'll accept either as A Win but would prefer to have both. :)
I fail to see how the banning and/or prevention of sharing by our communication systems every kind of pr0n and unauthorised (c) content could be anything other than BENEFICIAL to our nation and society, let alone do anything other than IMPROVE the general speed and family friendliness of The Net.
regarDS
Not in the slightest - it is the very thing I've been consistently arguing for because after all, for a successful and functioning society to remain that way requires continually RESTRICTING in various ways that which is detrimental to it.
Permitting "anything goes" does not a successful society make, so in order to improve our society for the better it only stands to reason that restrictions and regulations continue to be brought to bear upon virtually everything our society uses, which obviously must include our communication systems which are obviously currently able to be grossly mis-used ... and to the obvious detriment of us all at that when one considers the ancient observation and promise that "righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people", and all that.
In short, I'm all for making Oz a more righteous nation and society and for attempts to be made to prevent the spread and flow of that which poisons and corrupts our society (and clearly ILCF is one such attempt), but I'm also all for that which might also see Krudd's government ousted after but a single term ... I'll accept either as A Win but would prefer to have both. :)
I fail to see how the banning and/or prevention of sharing by our communication systems every kind of pr0n and unauthorised (c) content could be anything other than BENEFICIAL to our nation and society, let alone do anything other than IMPROVE the general speed and family friendliness of The Net.
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt23
Mark Newton writes...
"It is a fundamental human right to have access to food, water and other necessities of life. You don't have to observe any kind of responsibility to qualify for that right."
Etc. Dunno where on earth you think this might be happening, but it certainly isn't in Oz, Mark. Last time I looked, if you wanna continue to get a Centrelink benefit then you've also got to prove that you're keeping up your end of the bargain re: your "mutual obligations".
We don't have the right to eat what we have neither earned nor been given and to do so is generally classed as theft and/or trespass and not much has changed in that regard since the days of Moses, etc. Sure, our society charitably will ensure various of us receive certain things here and there gratis temporarily in many cases and even permanently in other cases but generally there is an understanding that the receipient should be trying to get themselves to the stage where they earn their daily bread again instead of forever depending on the rest of us. How many societies do you know of that enjoy and welcome free-loaders forever bludging ?
Rights and Responsibilities intrinsically linked again, and in this case (as is usual) a greater expectation and importance on Responsibilities. ie, the responsibility of those in a position of being able to help to help and the helpless to turn that help into self-help. In fact, "Rights" barely gets a peep in that Very Real reality.
No one has a right to just jump in a vehicle and just drive all over the place any way they choose. What they do have The Right to do is sit the medicals and tests, learn the rules, and prove that they are aware of their road responsibilities. The presumption is But Of Course that they are then going to prefer those responsibilities but either way, "Rights" barely figures in that either.
This sort of thing is what I want to see happening for your precious internut (which is a convenience and a luxury but hardly something that could be deemed a necessity let alone a right, yet certainly something that comes with a whole load of associated responsibility) and I believe that the likes of ILCF is but a small stepping stone in getting across that necessary river.
To date ILCF has been sold badly but I reckon it and greater than it would be loudly demanded by the Oz majority if it was tied in with the reality of providing a lasting True Clean Feed rather than some twaddle about stopping CP.
And this is another reason why I continue to support it.
Another reason is because I don't want Oz to become like France.
And yes, I admit that another reason is that I hope the issue as it currently is helps see the ALP kicked out of government for a long time to come. :)
regarDS
"It is a fundamental human right to have access to food, water and other necessities of life. You don't have to observe any kind of responsibility to qualify for that right."
Etc. Dunno where on earth you think this might be happening, but it certainly isn't in Oz, Mark. Last time I looked, if you wanna continue to get a Centrelink benefit then you've also got to prove that you're keeping up your end of the bargain re: your "mutual obligations".
We don't have the right to eat what we have neither earned nor been given and to do so is generally classed as theft and/or trespass and not much has changed in that regard since the days of Moses, etc. Sure, our society charitably will ensure various of us receive certain things here and there gratis temporarily in many cases and even permanently in other cases but generally there is an understanding that the receipient should be trying to get themselves to the stage where they earn their daily bread again instead of forever depending on the rest of us. How many societies do you know of that enjoy and welcome free-loaders forever bludging ?
Rights and Responsibilities intrinsically linked again, and in this case (as is usual) a greater expectation and importance on Responsibilities. ie, the responsibility of those in a position of being able to help to help and the helpless to turn that help into self-help. In fact, "Rights" barely gets a peep in that Very Real reality.
No one has a right to just jump in a vehicle and just drive all over the place any way they choose. What they do have The Right to do is sit the medicals and tests, learn the rules, and prove that they are aware of their road responsibilities. The presumption is But Of Course that they are then going to prefer those responsibilities but either way, "Rights" barely figures in that either.
This sort of thing is what I want to see happening for your precious internut (which is a convenience and a luxury but hardly something that could be deemed a necessity let alone a right, yet certainly something that comes with a whole load of associated responsibility) and I believe that the likes of ILCF is but a small stepping stone in getting across that necessary river.
To date ILCF has been sold badly but I reckon it and greater than it would be loudly demanded by the Oz majority if it was tied in with the reality of providing a lasting True Clean Feed rather than some twaddle about stopping CP.
And this is another reason why I continue to support it.
Another reason is because I don't want Oz to become like France.
And yes, I admit that another reason is that I hope the issue as it currently is helps see the ALP kicked out of government for a long time to come. :)
regarDS
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt22
"DS...... if it upsets you so much, just stop looking at the stuff. Solved."
Mark: He'll stop watching as soon as the French TV guys untie him from his chair :-)
Heh. How goes our continuing plan to discredit and get the ALP thrown out of government next election, brother ? Is this still something we are united in ?
Anyway, aside from that particular positive that ILCF can help deliver, why should I or anyone else have to be careful how we channel surf on TV or net surf on the McWeb ?
I'd rather have a Clean TV feed and Clean Internut Feed and not have to worry ... and what sort of parent wouldn't say the same ?
As for the likes of those who say things like "don't look and you won't have to be offended", then isn't that part of the reason so many areas of this planet are grubby polluted places these days ?
My guess is those who say such things rarely bother to try and keep their own community or city clean by picking up other thoughtless folk's rubbish but instead are prone to tipping engine oil down stormwater drains and playing their home theatre rigs at painful volumes late at night with the windows open.
ie, the kind of people who really only care about themselves.
Surely, in terms of the "Golden Rule" and all that, we all have a duty to ensure that our neighbours are not only discouraged if not prevented from harming themselves, but also prevented from bringing harm to the community let alone society in the long run ?
There we are, back to responsibilities and rights again. :)
Sure, ILCF is a bit like closing the barn door after the horses have bolted when one considers the depraved and embarrasing humiliations that are being inconsiderately broadcast into the ether on public TV in some countries, but hey, at least any Real Intelligence "out there" can now also see that at least SOME of us are trying to right the wrongs and that not all earth types are so easy and with strange inclinations. ;)
regarDS
Mark: He'll stop watching as soon as the French TV guys untie him from his chair :-)
Heh. How goes our continuing plan to discredit and get the ALP thrown out of government next election, brother ? Is this still something we are united in ?
Anyway, aside from that particular positive that ILCF can help deliver, why should I or anyone else have to be careful how we channel surf on TV or net surf on the McWeb ?
I'd rather have a Clean TV feed and Clean Internut Feed and not have to worry ... and what sort of parent wouldn't say the same ?
As for the likes of those who say things like "don't look and you won't have to be offended", then isn't that part of the reason so many areas of this planet are grubby polluted places these days ?
My guess is those who say such things rarely bother to try and keep their own community or city clean by picking up other thoughtless folk's rubbish but instead are prone to tipping engine oil down stormwater drains and playing their home theatre rigs at painful volumes late at night with the windows open.
ie, the kind of people who really only care about themselves.
Surely, in terms of the "Golden Rule" and all that, we all have a duty to ensure that our neighbours are not only discouraged if not prevented from harming themselves, but also prevented from bringing harm to the community let alone society in the long run ?
There we are, back to responsibilities and rights again. :)
Sure, ILCF is a bit like closing the barn door after the horses have bolted when one considers the depraved and embarrasing humiliations that are being inconsiderately broadcast into the ether on public TV in some countries, but hey, at least any Real Intelligence "out there" can now also see that at least SOME of us are trying to right the wrongs and that not all earth types are so easy and with strange inclinations. ;)
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt22
"Who would have thought the government's proposed Internet filtering scheme would bring together so many disparate groups all united in their opposition to mandatory censorship?
"
http://www.techworld.com.au/article/273031/strange_bedfellows_sex_it_unite_stop_net_censorship
I for one would happily vote for a Government which would seek to outlaw/make illegal all "X" rated material in Oz as well as make an "X" rating a more likely classification to be handed out. Same vote for a Government which made any kind of "sex industry" in Oz more difficult for anyone to become involved in (or make money out of) and brought greater penalties and punishments upon the customers of prostitutes rather than the prostitutes themselves - ie, reduce the need for supply by making the demand too unattractive.
Heck, put it all off-shore and don't let those who go off-shore for it back into the country, AFAIC ... and I bet I'm far from being alone with that sentiment.
Interesting the kinds of groups that get listed in that article and fascinating that they should come out into the light of day when the chosen lifestyles and/or questionable livelihoods are confronted with the potential of a "CLEAN FEED" and "FILTERED INTERNET" and it says a lot about the kind of Oz they selfishly want to inflict upon us all.
Yet I bet most of them prefer to drink filtered and clean water when they aren't busy trying to turn Oz into a revist of the last days of Pompeii, etc.
Ah well, at very least the threat of ILCF has helped draw a new line in the sand and made it easier to determine on yet another level just where the morality of Oz currently is and where it is heading.
regarDS
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http://www.techworld.com.au/article/273031/strange_bedfellows_sex_it_unite_stop_net_censorship
I for one would happily vote for a Government which would seek to outlaw/make illegal all "X" rated material in Oz as well as make an "X" rating a more likely classification to be handed out. Same vote for a Government which made any kind of "sex industry" in Oz more difficult for anyone to become involved in (or make money out of) and brought greater penalties and punishments upon the customers of prostitutes rather than the prostitutes themselves - ie, reduce the need for supply by making the demand too unattractive.
Heck, put it all off-shore and don't let those who go off-shore for it back into the country, AFAIC ... and I bet I'm far from being alone with that sentiment.
Interesting the kinds of groups that get listed in that article and fascinating that they should come out into the light of day when the chosen lifestyles and/or questionable livelihoods are confronted with the potential of a "CLEAN FEED" and "FILTERED INTERNET" and it says a lot about the kind of Oz they selfishly want to inflict upon us all.
Yet I bet most of them prefer to drink filtered and clean water when they aren't busy trying to turn Oz into a revist of the last days of Pompeii, etc.
Ah well, at very least the threat of ILCF has helped draw a new line in the sand and made it easier to determine on yet another level just where the morality of Oz currently is and where it is heading.
regarDS
Thursday, January 08, 2009
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt22
derspatz: So, have the ILCF trials commenced yet ? If so, any reported results as yet ?
Mark: Nope, Dave. Total failure. They collapsed in a heap in the week before Christmas, and Conroy said they were being pushed back to mid January.
Ah good, so I didn't miss anything interusting. :)
Mark: Here's my wrap-up of December for you, hope it's helpful :-)
/forum-replies.cfm?t=1109992&p=35#r694
Cheers Mark. Nothing like a beastly excursion to the Northern Hemisphere for a few weeks to remind us of how good we actually have it back here in Oz, eh ? Almost enough to make one want to make a small fire of one's passports (yeah, I've got a couple of different kinds) in the car park of the internutional airport once the final leg of the long-haul and the customs gauntlets and queues are over, hmmm ?
derspatz: I certainly was not very happy to discover the kind of stuff that was broadcast on public access French TV after midnight.
Mark: And yet, French society appears to have continued unabated along a slowly but steadily improving cant for hundreds, nay, thousands of years.
Surely you jest, oi ? Dunno what you can find all that advanced about that particular fragment of Ancient Rome which has given us the likes of Donatien Alphonse François de Sade and his sadism, madness, perversions, and the diseases they helped spread, or Ernest Duchesne (the true) discoverer of penicillin – used to combat sufferers of certain ails spread by the likes of the aforementioned, or Joseph-Ignace Guillotin and his development of the amputation device that bears his name and was deemed so popular by the common masses that they used it to amputate the heads of some of the very people who gave them their precious revolution and alleged "freedom" in the first place ?
Don't you find that particular society to generally consist of a humourless bunch who take themselves far too seriously (especially when it comes to food and its preparation and their language) and who are so obsessed with things digestive that one of their number going by the name of Marc-Antoine Jacoud, actually invented a device whereby a seated user can return under pressure the discarded remnants of recently digested to where it was just exited ... this time as a watery soup to be dribbled out again and again (apparently) ?
It is bad enough that their word for the affirmative has been incorporated into the Oz bogan Oz day chant, and don't get me started on the need for queues virtually everywhere you go in their capital. So sorry, no sale on the "steadily improving" thang – I just can't see it.
derspatz: The trouble is, morally even such things so easily judged as "pointless" on one level, should still be attempted even if doomed to failure, yes ?
Mark: Ah, yes: The Alston, "Even if we don't succeed we should still make the attempt" defense.
AFAIC, as long as The Righteous still attempt to be and promote righteousness, hope remains for mankind. I wouldn't know what the minimum level of the same is required in order to avoid judgement from a different source (looks up), but if memory serves me correctly it used to be 5 to a town or something like that ...
Oh, and to answer someone elses question, yes, I am still in support of ILCF.
regarDS
Mark: Nope, Dave. Total failure. They collapsed in a heap in the week before Christmas, and Conroy said they were being pushed back to mid January.
Ah good, so I didn't miss anything interusting. :)
Mark: Here's my wrap-up of December for you, hope it's helpful :-)
/forum-replies.cfm?t=1109992&p=35#r694
Cheers Mark. Nothing like a beastly excursion to the Northern Hemisphere for a few weeks to remind us of how good we actually have it back here in Oz, eh ? Almost enough to make one want to make a small fire of one's passports (yeah, I've got a couple of different kinds) in the car park of the internutional airport once the final leg of the long-haul and the customs gauntlets and queues are over, hmmm ?
derspatz: I certainly was not very happy to discover the kind of stuff that was broadcast on public access French TV after midnight.
Mark: And yet, French society appears to have continued unabated along a slowly but steadily improving cant for hundreds, nay, thousands of years.
Surely you jest, oi ? Dunno what you can find all that advanced about that particular fragment of Ancient Rome which has given us the likes of Donatien Alphonse François de Sade and his sadism, madness, perversions, and the diseases they helped spread, or Ernest Duchesne (the true) discoverer of penicillin – used to combat sufferers of certain ails spread by the likes of the aforementioned, or Joseph-Ignace Guillotin and his development of the amputation device that bears his name and was deemed so popular by the common masses that they used it to amputate the heads of some of the very people who gave them their precious revolution and alleged "freedom" in the first place ?
Don't you find that particular society to generally consist of a humourless bunch who take themselves far too seriously (especially when it comes to food and its preparation and their language) and who are so obsessed with things digestive that one of their number going by the name of Marc-Antoine Jacoud, actually invented a device whereby a seated user can return under pressure the discarded remnants of recently digested to where it was just exited ... this time as a watery soup to be dribbled out again and again (apparently) ?
It is bad enough that their word for the affirmative has been incorporated into the Oz bogan Oz day chant, and don't get me started on the need for queues virtually everywhere you go in their capital. So sorry, no sale on the "steadily improving" thang – I just can't see it.
derspatz: The trouble is, morally even such things so easily judged as "pointless" on one level, should still be attempted even if doomed to failure, yes ?
Mark: Ah, yes: The Alston, "Even if we don't succeed we should still make the attempt" defense.
AFAIC, as long as The Righteous still attempt to be and promote righteousness, hope remains for mankind. I wouldn't know what the minimum level of the same is required in order to avoid judgement from a different source (looks up), but if memory serves me correctly it used to be 5 to a town or something like that ...
Oh, and to answer someone elses question, yes, I am still in support of ILCF.
regarDS
Wednesday, January 07, 2009
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt22
Just got back from 4 weeks in the UK/EU and away from things online and notice this topic has incremented 6 digits in my absence – far too much for me to try and catch up on.
So, have the ILCF trials commenced yet ? If so, any reported results as yet ?
Although I'm happy to discover that my comment to the DBCDE site was published while I was away ( see:
http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_business/industry_development/digital_economy/future_directions_blog/topics/minister_tanners_welcome/derspatz ) I certainly was not very happy to discover the kind of stuff that was broadcast on public access French TV after midnight.
Let's just say that I've never encountered anything like it by either accident or design in over two decades of "online" participation, and yes, just like with every other kind of pr0n I've ever been exposed to, I've "been harmed" by it.
Thus, my current view as I type is that perhaps it is now totally pointless to try and control/moderate the internut when some countries are apparently broadcasting free to air certain kinds of information that should never have ever been imagined let alone filmed.
I will agree that implementing ILCF could be deemed akin to the tale of the dutch boy plugging up a hole in a dyke (see: http://www.thehollandring.com/hans-brinker-story.shtml ) but with a new twist being that the waters are already about to pour over the very top due to a storm surge anyway.
Pointless.
The trouble is, morally even such things so easily judged as "pointless" on one level, should still be attempted even if doomed to failure, yes ?
regarDS
So, have the ILCF trials commenced yet ? If so, any reported results as yet ?
Although I'm happy to discover that my comment to the DBCDE site was published while I was away ( see:
http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_business/industry_development/digital_economy/future_directions_blog/topics/minister_tanners_welcome/derspatz ) I certainly was not very happy to discover the kind of stuff that was broadcast on public access French TV after midnight.
Let's just say that I've never encountered anything like it by either accident or design in over two decades of "online" participation, and yes, just like with every other kind of pr0n I've ever been exposed to, I've "been harmed" by it.
Thus, my current view as I type is that perhaps it is now totally pointless to try and control/moderate the internut when some countries are apparently broadcasting free to air certain kinds of information that should never have ever been imagined let alone filmed.
I will agree that implementing ILCF could be deemed akin to the tale of the dutch boy plugging up a hole in a dyke (see: http://www.thehollandring.com/hans-brinker-story.shtml ) but with a new twist being that the waters are already about to pour over the very top due to a storm surge anyway.
Pointless.
The trouble is, morally even such things so easily judged as "pointless" on one level, should still be attempted even if doomed to failure, yes ?
regarDS
Tuesday, December 09, 2008
Posted @ DBCDE blog site ...
Posted to: http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_business/industry_development/digital_economy/future_directions_blog/topics/minister_tanners_welcome
See: http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html for more on "GetUp!"
"If not ILCF (ISP Level Content Filtering) then something needs to be done (and is well over-due) in terms of making the internut/McNet/McWeb we currently have a better place for one and all to use as well as set it in the direction of being something that is more of a benefit to the ongoing development of our society and culture than the ever increasing demeaning and putrid negative it currently is.
My advice to the government is to ignore the pathetic and self-indulgent bleatings of the selfish Oz minority who are worried about being cut off from their chosen poisons and the feeds they use to steal intellectual property by, and instead continue to consider the wishes of the businesses being robbed left right and centre by the likes of that aforementioned bleating selfish minority, as too the wishes of the Oz majority who want a safe virtual backyard for their kids to play in.
That the likes of the putrid lefty "GetUp!" lobbying group have now chosen to now align themselves with this latest public fad topic (no doubt in order to fleece a new breed of sheep then redirect conned, uh, donated funds to their more extreme lefty agendas where-ever possible) is one of the best indications that the likes of ILCF is not only well justified but also well overdue.
Why ? Well since when did the likes of GetUp! ever get involved in supporting what is actually Good and Right for Australia ?
regarDS
http://derblatz.blogspot.com"
See: http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html for more on "GetUp!"
"If not ILCF (ISP Level Content Filtering) then something needs to be done (and is well over-due) in terms of making the internut/McNet/McWeb we currently have a better place for one and all to use as well as set it in the direction of being something that is more of a benefit to the ongoing development of our society and culture than the ever increasing demeaning and putrid negative it currently is.
My advice to the government is to ignore the pathetic and self-indulgent bleatings of the selfish Oz minority who are worried about being cut off from their chosen poisons and the feeds they use to steal intellectual property by, and instead continue to consider the wishes of the businesses being robbed left right and centre by the likes of that aforementioned bleating selfish minority, as too the wishes of the Oz majority who want a safe virtual backyard for their kids to play in.
That the likes of the putrid lefty "GetUp!" lobbying group have now chosen to now align themselves with this latest public fad topic (no doubt in order to fleece a new breed of sheep then redirect conned, uh, donated funds to their more extreme lefty agendas where-ever possible) is one of the best indications that the likes of ILCF is not only well justified but also well overdue.
Why ? Well since when did the likes of GetUp! ever get involved in supporting what is actually Good and Right for Australia ?
regarDS
http://derblatz.blogspot.com"
Saturday, December 06, 2008
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt16
Firstly, those who've been busy putting money on "derspatz" being anyone else in here other than "derspatz" and for a brief moment "derspatz13" early on in the piece (before requesting that ID be deleted as I'd finally remembered my password to my former account created years ago) please donate your losses to the "Royal Flying Doctor Service" ... where it might actually do some Real World Good rather than sponsor the evil lefty agendas of "GetUp!". I'm too narcissistic to hide behind aliases ;)
Anyway, too slow and quiet by half in here ATM, so here is something to cheer the regulars up.
Quotes from "Prune", the 2008 "ISP Level Content Filtering" initiative directed by Senator Conroy, based on the novel Dune by Frank Herbert.
Cast:
Princess Irulan: Bernadete McMenamin
Paul Atreides/Muad'Dib/Usul: Senator Conroy
Chani: Senator Conroy's wife.
Duke Atreides: KRudd.
Alia Atreides: Hetty Johnston
Gurney & Stilgar: Loyal Conroy and/or ILCF Supporters
Guildsmen: ISP Representatives speaking for themselves, and Whirlpool Mods.
Baron Vladimir Harkonnen: Org'asmo
Bene Gesseret Reverend Mother: derspatz in drag after a very bad haircut.
"The beginning is a very delicate time. Know then that it is the year 2008. The Known World Wide Web is ruled by the Protocul TCP IPvIV. In this time, the most precious substance in the WWW is the packet data "pr0n". The pr0n corrupts life, the pr0n perverts consciousness, the pr0n is vital to the profits of Internut Service Providers. The Internutting Guild and its representatives and high-bandwidth customers, who the pr0n has mutated over 20 years, use the fleshy coloured pr0n pixels, which gives them the ability to bond across space. That is, to virtually fornicate with anyone else on the web without actually moving. Oh, yes. I forgot to tell you. The pr0n exists in packets throughout the entire web, a dangerous child unfriendly desert with vast potential to bring harm to one and all. Hidden away within the addresses of this desert are a people known as the Freemen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah who would lead them to true freedom. The task is called "ILCF", also known as "Prune" - Princess Irulan
"It is by will alone I set my hand in motion. It is by the packets of "unwanted" that hands acquire speed, my pants acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my hand in motion." - The Late Night Solitary User Mantra, (played by The Plugged In, all over Oz)
"Some URLs have a certain smell ..." - Paul Atreides
"FIIIILLL-TAAR!" - Shouted by supporters of ILCF in attack mode.
"Send a third stage GetUp! Advertiser to google to demand details from the Governet. The pr0n must flow..." - a pr0n warped/changed member of the Internutting Guild, from a special report within the Guild, speaking on his own behalf.
"The Bene Gesserit witch must leave." - a Guildsman says that the Truthsayer has to leave the forum.
"when the storm hits... set off the atomics. I want an opening through the entire Shield Wall. Stilgar, do we have wormsign? Stilgar: Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen." (Storm = "Holiday Season when no one is around, Atomics = ILCF, Wormsign = "pr0n to be pruned by ILCF")
"You suggest the son of the Duke is an animal?
Let us say I suggest you may be human." - from a conversation between Paul and the Reverend Mother.
"We Freemen have a saying: God created Prune to train the faithful. One cannot go against the word of God." - Muad'Dib.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney
"Father... father, the sleeper has awakened!" - Senator Conroy commenting to KRudd how GetUp! have chosen to attached themselves to this latest publicity related fad-concern so that they can fleece the naive of funds so that their more extreme left-wing goals can be further supported and promoted. As described at:
http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." - Senator Conroy during Parliment Question Time.
"talk without rhythm and you won't attract the worm." - Senator Conroy during Parliment Question Time.
"Tell me of your homeworld, Usul." - Chani, wondering what she has married :)
"We foresee a slight problem. The Duke's son. We want him killed. I did not say this. I am not here." - Guildsman speaking for himself.
"I'll miss the 747s, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken." - KRudd commenting to Conroy what it may be like to be a single term government (we can all only hope so. And there you have another aspect of derspatz pragmatism. Heh.)
"I will have Prune back for myself! He who controls the pr0n controls the Web ..." - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
"The pr0n must flow." - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
"Long live the filters !" - Muad'Dib/Conroy
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." - Muad'Dib/Conroy, speaking of the internut.
"And how can this be? For he is the ersatz spatzattack!" - Alia Atreides talking of Paul.
regarDS
Anyway, too slow and quiet by half in here ATM, so here is something to cheer the regulars up.
Quotes from "Prune", the 2008 "ISP Level Content Filtering" initiative directed by Senator Conroy, based on the novel Dune by Frank Herbert.
Cast:
Princess Irulan: Bernadete McMenamin
Paul Atreides/Muad'Dib/Usul: Senator Conroy
Chani: Senator Conroy's wife.
Duke Atreides: KRudd.
Alia Atreides: Hetty Johnston
Gurney & Stilgar: Loyal Conroy and/or ILCF Supporters
Guildsmen: ISP Representatives speaking for themselves, and Whirlpool Mods.
Baron Vladimir Harkonnen: Org'asmo
Bene Gesseret Reverend Mother: derspatz in drag after a very bad haircut.
"The beginning is a very delicate time. Know then that it is the year 2008. The Known World Wide Web is ruled by the Protocul TCP IPvIV. In this time, the most precious substance in the WWW is the packet data "pr0n". The pr0n corrupts life, the pr0n perverts consciousness, the pr0n is vital to the profits of Internut Service Providers. The Internutting Guild and its representatives and high-bandwidth customers, who the pr0n has mutated over 20 years, use the fleshy coloured pr0n pixels, which gives them the ability to bond across space. That is, to virtually fornicate with anyone else on the web without actually moving. Oh, yes. I forgot to tell you. The pr0n exists in packets throughout the entire web, a dangerous child unfriendly desert with vast potential to bring harm to one and all. Hidden away within the addresses of this desert are a people known as the Freemen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah who would lead them to true freedom. The task is called "ILCF", also known as "Prune" - Princess Irulan
"It is by will alone I set my hand in motion. It is by the packets of "unwanted" that hands acquire speed, my pants acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my hand in motion." - The Late Night Solitary User Mantra, (played by The Plugged In, all over Oz)
"Some URLs have a certain smell ..." - Paul Atreides
"FIIIILLL-TAAR!" - Shouted by supporters of ILCF in attack mode.
"Send a third stage GetUp! Advertiser to google to demand details from the Governet. The pr0n must flow..." - a pr0n warped/changed member of the Internutting Guild, from a special report within the Guild, speaking on his own behalf.
"The Bene Gesserit witch must leave." - a Guildsman says that the Truthsayer has to leave the forum.
"when the storm hits... set off the atomics. I want an opening through the entire Shield Wall. Stilgar, do we have wormsign? Stilgar: Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen." (Storm = "Holiday Season when no one is around, Atomics = ILCF, Wormsign = "pr0n to be pruned by ILCF")
"You suggest the son of the Duke is an animal?
Let us say I suggest you may be human." - from a conversation between Paul and the Reverend Mother.
"We Freemen have a saying: God created Prune to train the faithful. One cannot go against the word of God." - Muad'Dib.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney
"Father... father, the sleeper has awakened!" - Senator Conroy commenting to KRudd how GetUp! have chosen to attached themselves to this latest publicity related fad-concern so that they can fleece the naive of funds so that their more extreme left-wing goals can be further supported and promoted. As described at:
http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." - Senator Conroy during Parliment Question Time.
"talk without rhythm and you won't attract the worm." - Senator Conroy during Parliment Question Time.
"Tell me of your homeworld, Usul." - Chani, wondering what she has married :)
"We foresee a slight problem. The Duke's son. We want him killed. I did not say this. I am not here." - Guildsman speaking for himself.
"I'll miss the 747s, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken." - KRudd commenting to Conroy what it may be like to be a single term government (we can all only hope so. And there you have another aspect of derspatz pragmatism. Heh.)
"I will have Prune back for myself! He who controls the pr0n controls the Web ..." - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
"The pr0n must flow." - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
"Long live the filters !" - Muad'Dib/Conroy
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." - Muad'Dib/Conroy, speaking of the internut.
"And how can this be? For he is the ersatz spatzattack!" - Alia Atreides talking of Paul.
regarDS
Posted here in response to - ILCF pt15 @ WP
"Why should these parents who are, by your admission, unable to protect their children by monitoring their internet use, be allowed to be in posession of alcohol, deadly household chemicals, deadly weapons (cars), matches and lighters which can cause fires and sharp knives and instruments which can maim or kill?"
A question from a user call "Non Sequitur" choosing to example just why that particular user name was chosen, and who is still yet to realise the folly of its repetitious asking of an obviously foolish question.
Hmmmm, should I apply Proverbs 26:4, or 26:5 in this case ?
Oh well, its troll has now received the attention it so desired and its folly is now further exampled for a greater audience to judge.
A case of "careful what you wish for ..." ?
regarDS
A question from a user call "Non Sequitur" choosing to example just why that particular user name was chosen, and who is still yet to realise the folly of its repetitious asking of an obviously foolish question.
Hmmmm, should I apply Proverbs 26:4, or 26:5 in this case ?
Oh well, its troll has now received the attention it so desired and its folly is now further exampled for a greater audience to judge.
A case of "careful what you wish for ..." ?
regarDS
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