Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt12

Don't quote me on this, but I remember hearing something that under the copyright act, it is illegal to bypass a protection scheme. If the filter goes into law, couldn't that be applied to it, since the filter would be a legal protection scheme, as much as we all hate it?

If so, then let's go one better. What happens when little Joey deliberately circumvents the filter and little Joe's mum catches him and complains. Will the ISP be held accountable for allowing the filter to be circumvented ?

Also (but not related) assume that after ILCF is trialed and implemented, a mum walks in on her little Johnny one day just as he has finished receiving via msn or some such program, a little home-movie made by little Jenny at school – a webcam movie she was sucked into making by little Jeffrey at the same school coz she thought they were, "like, in [heart] like 4eva", but really he was just stringing her along so he could get the goods and then share it with his mates.

"but ILCF was supposed to stop this, wasn't it", waa every mum and dad who learns of the story, and but of course a number of the mums and dads go and see the police and see who can be arrested about all of this, and also see their lawyers to see who they can sue for damages about it too.

ATM, who can get arrested and who can get sued over such a (not unlikely) scenario ?

I've got a feeling that our elected governments would far prefer it if the ISPs could be held responsible on the financial side of things ...

Sure, ILCF 0.9b on its own ain't ever going to prevent the likes of the Little Jenny Show, so if "protect the children" is going to be forefront of our government's charge into achieving believable internet control for the sake of The Child, I think it only stands to reason that in the end, ISPs are going to be MADE to be responsible for the traffic of a lot more than mere url/web data.

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt12

better education to bring people up better

Agreed Kj ... trouble is we are talking about Oz here. As a nation, we can barely be trusted to do the right thing by our pets (how many unregistered and non de-sexed cats and dogs running around out there ?) and neighbours (both in the homes near us, and in the vehicles sharing the roads with us).

Add to that the pity poor state the standard education of our children and youth is and it soon becomes apparent that the main educational options available in the short term consist of a national Intervention coupled with a figurative purgative followed by an enforced better diet and supervised activities until new behaviours have been learned and trust earned.

Yeah, like laid-back Oz is ever going to easily opt for that !

So, apply another band-aid. ILCF being but a part of it if we are going to consider ILCF on face value as opposed to looking at it through the lense of ultimately being used to protect the profits of Big Business and the power of Governments.

Cheers re: the song ... which should give you a better idea of how laid back I am in everything, too. :)

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt12

can't whim you as you have it disabled , why is that I wonder ?

You can get the plain and simple answer to that one towards the end of the blog entry at: http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/11/internut-by-any-other-name.html in a section between the tags: "[Overly Offensive Mode] ... [/Overly Offensive Mode] found towards the end.

In short, I'm not interesting in entertaining privately sent anonymous cowardly abuse either here nor on any blog, etc, and so do not have "Private Mail", nor "Whims", nor "Comments" enabled for forum and blog participation.

Deem it to be a form of pro-active filtering.

See, I'm not just about our Government trying to do the filtering for us via ILCF ... I am happy to put into place my own filters as well – as do the many of us who use filters like Ad blockers, Pop-up blockers, Firewalls, Spyware Blocker/scanners, Anti-virus scanners, spam-guards, etc, etc, etc.

There is always room for one more filter and I can't see that changing regardless of ILCF 0.9b ... not that anyone is actually thinking that ILCF is going to be the all-powerful magic bullet.

Tis just another filter, and just like all the other filters we do, it will get some things very right and other things very wrong.

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt12

If someone goes to an illegal site (not unwanted) they go to JAIL. So we don't need a filter for that.

Better to build a better Net than yet more jails. Probably cheaper for the Oz tax-payer, too.

regarDS