Posted to: http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_business/industry_development/digital_economy/future_directions_blog/topics/minister_tanners_welcome
See: http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html for more on "GetUp!"
"If not ILCF (ISP Level Content Filtering) then something needs to be done (and is well over-due) in terms of making the internut/McNet/McWeb we currently have a better place for one and all to use as well as set it in the direction of being something that is more of a benefit to the ongoing development of our society and culture than the ever increasing demeaning and putrid negative it currently is.
My advice to the government is to ignore the pathetic and self-indulgent bleatings of the selfish Oz minority who are worried about being cut off from their chosen poisons and the feeds they use to steal intellectual property by, and instead continue to consider the wishes of the businesses being robbed left right and centre by the likes of that aforementioned bleating selfish minority, as too the wishes of the Oz majority who want a safe virtual backyard for their kids to play in.
That the likes of the putrid lefty "GetUp!" lobbying group have now chosen to now align themselves with this latest public fad topic (no doubt in order to fleece a new breed of sheep then redirect conned, uh, donated funds to their more extreme lefty agendas where-ever possible) is one of the best indications that the likes of ILCF is not only well justified but also well overdue.
Why ? Well since when did the likes of GetUp! ever get involved in supporting what is actually Good and Right for Australia ?
regarDS
http://derblatz.blogspot.com"
Tuesday, December 09, 2008
Saturday, December 06, 2008
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt16
Firstly, those who've been busy putting money on "derspatz" being anyone else in here other than "derspatz" and for a brief moment "derspatz13" early on in the piece (before requesting that ID be deleted as I'd finally remembered my password to my former account created years ago) please donate your losses to the "Royal Flying Doctor Service" ... where it might actually do some Real World Good rather than sponsor the evil lefty agendas of "GetUp!". I'm too narcissistic to hide behind aliases ;)
Anyway, too slow and quiet by half in here ATM, so here is something to cheer the regulars up.
Quotes from "Prune", the 2008 "ISP Level Content Filtering" initiative directed by Senator Conroy, based on the novel Dune by Frank Herbert.
Cast:
Princess Irulan: Bernadete McMenamin
Paul Atreides/Muad'Dib/Usul: Senator Conroy
Chani: Senator Conroy's wife.
Duke Atreides: KRudd.
Alia Atreides: Hetty Johnston
Gurney & Stilgar: Loyal Conroy and/or ILCF Supporters
Guildsmen: ISP Representatives speaking for themselves, and Whirlpool Mods.
Baron Vladimir Harkonnen: Org'asmo
Bene Gesseret Reverend Mother: derspatz in drag after a very bad haircut.
"The beginning is a very delicate time. Know then that it is the year 2008. The Known World Wide Web is ruled by the Protocul TCP IPvIV. In this time, the most precious substance in the WWW is the packet data "pr0n". The pr0n corrupts life, the pr0n perverts consciousness, the pr0n is vital to the profits of Internut Service Providers. The Internutting Guild and its representatives and high-bandwidth customers, who the pr0n has mutated over 20 years, use the fleshy coloured pr0n pixels, which gives them the ability to bond across space. That is, to virtually fornicate with anyone else on the web without actually moving. Oh, yes. I forgot to tell you. The pr0n exists in packets throughout the entire web, a dangerous child unfriendly desert with vast potential to bring harm to one and all. Hidden away within the addresses of this desert are a people known as the Freemen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah who would lead them to true freedom. The task is called "ILCF", also known as "Prune" - Princess Irulan
"It is by will alone I set my hand in motion. It is by the packets of "unwanted" that hands acquire speed, my pants acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my hand in motion." - The Late Night Solitary User Mantra, (played by The Plugged In, all over Oz)
"Some URLs have a certain smell ..." - Paul Atreides
"FIIIILLL-TAAR!" - Shouted by supporters of ILCF in attack mode.
"Send a third stage GetUp! Advertiser to google to demand details from the Governet. The pr0n must flow..." - a pr0n warped/changed member of the Internutting Guild, from a special report within the Guild, speaking on his own behalf.
"The Bene Gesserit witch must leave." - a Guildsman says that the Truthsayer has to leave the forum.
"when the storm hits... set off the atomics. I want an opening through the entire Shield Wall. Stilgar, do we have wormsign? Stilgar: Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen." (Storm = "Holiday Season when no one is around, Atomics = ILCF, Wormsign = "pr0n to be pruned by ILCF")
"You suggest the son of the Duke is an animal?
Let us say I suggest you may be human." - from a conversation between Paul and the Reverend Mother.
"We Freemen have a saying: God created Prune to train the faithful. One cannot go against the word of God." - Muad'Dib.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney
"Father... father, the sleeper has awakened!" - Senator Conroy commenting to KRudd how GetUp! have chosen to attached themselves to this latest publicity related fad-concern so that they can fleece the naive of funds so that their more extreme left-wing goals can be further supported and promoted. As described at:
http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." - Senator Conroy during Parliment Question Time.
"talk without rhythm and you won't attract the worm." - Senator Conroy during Parliment Question Time.
"Tell me of your homeworld, Usul." - Chani, wondering what she has married :)
"We foresee a slight problem. The Duke's son. We want him killed. I did not say this. I am not here." - Guildsman speaking for himself.
"I'll miss the 747s, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken." - KRudd commenting to Conroy what it may be like to be a single term government (we can all only hope so. And there you have another aspect of derspatz pragmatism. Heh.)
"I will have Prune back for myself! He who controls the pr0n controls the Web ..." - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
"The pr0n must flow." - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
"Long live the filters !" - Muad'Dib/Conroy
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." - Muad'Dib/Conroy, speaking of the internut.
"And how can this be? For he is the ersatz spatzattack!" - Alia Atreides talking of Paul.
regarDS
Anyway, too slow and quiet by half in here ATM, so here is something to cheer the regulars up.
Quotes from "Prune", the 2008 "ISP Level Content Filtering" initiative directed by Senator Conroy, based on the novel Dune by Frank Herbert.
Cast:
Princess Irulan: Bernadete McMenamin
Paul Atreides/Muad'Dib/Usul: Senator Conroy
Chani: Senator Conroy's wife.
Duke Atreides: KRudd.
Alia Atreides: Hetty Johnston
Gurney & Stilgar: Loyal Conroy and/or ILCF Supporters
Guildsmen: ISP Representatives speaking for themselves, and Whirlpool Mods.
Baron Vladimir Harkonnen: Org'asmo
Bene Gesseret Reverend Mother: derspatz in drag after a very bad haircut.
"The beginning is a very delicate time. Know then that it is the year 2008. The Known World Wide Web is ruled by the Protocul TCP IPvIV. In this time, the most precious substance in the WWW is the packet data "pr0n". The pr0n corrupts life, the pr0n perverts consciousness, the pr0n is vital to the profits of Internut Service Providers. The Internutting Guild and its representatives and high-bandwidth customers, who the pr0n has mutated over 20 years, use the fleshy coloured pr0n pixels, which gives them the ability to bond across space. That is, to virtually fornicate with anyone else on the web without actually moving. Oh, yes. I forgot to tell you. The pr0n exists in packets throughout the entire web, a dangerous child unfriendly desert with vast potential to bring harm to one and all. Hidden away within the addresses of this desert are a people known as the Freemen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah who would lead them to true freedom. The task is called "ILCF", also known as "Prune" - Princess Irulan
"It is by will alone I set my hand in motion. It is by the packets of "unwanted" that hands acquire speed, my pants acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my hand in motion." - The Late Night Solitary User Mantra, (played by The Plugged In, all over Oz)
"Some URLs have a certain smell ..." - Paul Atreides
"FIIIILLL-TAAR!" - Shouted by supporters of ILCF in attack mode.
"Send a third stage GetUp! Advertiser to google to demand details from the Governet. The pr0n must flow..." - a pr0n warped/changed member of the Internutting Guild, from a special report within the Guild, speaking on his own behalf.
"The Bene Gesserit witch must leave." - a Guildsman says that the Truthsayer has to leave the forum.
"when the storm hits... set off the atomics. I want an opening through the entire Shield Wall. Stilgar, do we have wormsign? Stilgar: Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen." (Storm = "Holiday Season when no one is around, Atomics = ILCF, Wormsign = "pr0n to be pruned by ILCF")
"You suggest the son of the Duke is an animal?
Let us say I suggest you may be human." - from a conversation between Paul and the Reverend Mother.
"We Freemen have a saying: God created Prune to train the faithful. One cannot go against the word of God." - Muad'Dib.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney
"Father... father, the sleeper has awakened!" - Senator Conroy commenting to KRudd how GetUp! have chosen to attached themselves to this latest publicity related fad-concern so that they can fleece the naive of funds so that their more extreme left-wing goals can be further supported and promoted. As described at:
http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." - Senator Conroy during Parliment Question Time.
"talk without rhythm and you won't attract the worm." - Senator Conroy during Parliment Question Time.
"Tell me of your homeworld, Usul." - Chani, wondering what she has married :)
"We foresee a slight problem. The Duke's son. We want him killed. I did not say this. I am not here." - Guildsman speaking for himself.
"I'll miss the 747s, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken." - KRudd commenting to Conroy what it may be like to be a single term government (we can all only hope so. And there you have another aspect of derspatz pragmatism. Heh.)
"I will have Prune back for myself! He who controls the pr0n controls the Web ..." - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
"The pr0n must flow." - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
"Long live the filters !" - Muad'Dib/Conroy
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." - Muad'Dib/Conroy, speaking of the internut.
"And how can this be? For he is the ersatz spatzattack!" - Alia Atreides talking of Paul.
regarDS
Posted here in response to - ILCF pt15 @ WP
"Why should these parents who are, by your admission, unable to protect their children by monitoring their internet use, be allowed to be in posession of alcohol, deadly household chemicals, deadly weapons (cars), matches and lighters which can cause fires and sharp knives and instruments which can maim or kill?"
A question from a user call "Non Sequitur" choosing to example just why that particular user name was chosen, and who is still yet to realise the folly of its repetitious asking of an obviously foolish question.
Hmmmm, should I apply Proverbs 26:4, or 26:5 in this case ?
Oh well, its troll has now received the attention it so desired and its folly is now further exampled for a greater audience to judge.
A case of "careful what you wish for ..." ?
regarDS
A question from a user call "Non Sequitur" choosing to example just why that particular user name was chosen, and who is still yet to realise the folly of its repetitious asking of an obviously foolish question.
Hmmmm, should I apply Proverbs 26:4, or 26:5 in this case ?
Oh well, its troll has now received the attention it so desired and its folly is now further exampled for a greater audience to judge.
A case of "careful what you wish for ..." ?
regarDS
Thursday, December 04, 2008
So Long And Thanks For All The Fish ...
Taking a break.
Visit http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html should you ever miss me and/or need a bit of annoying. :)
regarDS
Visit http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html should you ever miss me and/or need a bit of annoying. :)
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Eeeek, this thread seems to have gone mad. Anti-"religion" oozing out of every other keyboard and pore and to compound that (on the subject of poor), we've now apparently got money being thrown at a new hopeless cause.
Which, come to think of it, is somewhat ironic considering the charge being levelled at ILCF being an alleged waste of money !
Oh well. Prolly silly to be part of this topic ATM – maybe I'll return to it when it becomes a little more sensible.
To paraphrase one Captain Oates, "I am just going offline and may be some time."
regarDS
Which, come to think of it, is somewhat ironic considering the charge being levelled at ILCF being an alleged waste of money !
Oh well. Prolly silly to be part of this topic ATM – maybe I'll return to it when it becomes a little more sensible.
To paraphrase one Captain Oates, "I am just going offline and may be some time."
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Thought some might find this interesting re: Internet control in the UAE. From wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai
SOQ
"Etisalat, the government owned telecommunications provider, held a virtual monopoly over telecommunication services in Dubai prior to the establishment of other, smaller telecommunications companies such as Emirates Integrated Telecommunications Company (EITC — better known as Du) in 2006. Internet was introduced into the UAE (and therefore Dubai) in 1995. The current network is supported by a bandwidth of 6 GB, with 50,000 dialup and 150,000 broadband ports. Dubai houses two of four DNS data centers in the country (DXBNIC1, DXBNIC2)[90]. Internet content is regulated in Dubai. Etisalat uses a proxy server to filter internet content that is deemed to be inconsistent with the values of the country, that provides information on bypassing the proxy, dating, gay and lesbian networks, sites pertaining to the Bahá'í faith, and sites originating from Israel. Additionally, VoIP services such as Skype that challenge Etisalat's monopoly over international calling as well as multimedia sharing and social networking websites such as Flickr, Lastfm, Hi5 and Orkut are blocked"EOQ
The entry seems a bit hay-wire the positioning of the phrase "that provides information on bypassing the proxy" mind you ...
Either way, it seems that the proxy server is far from dead.
regarDS
SOQ
"Etisalat, the government owned telecommunications provider, held a virtual monopoly over telecommunication services in Dubai prior to the establishment of other, smaller telecommunications companies such as Emirates Integrated Telecommunications Company (EITC — better known as Du) in 2006. Internet was introduced into the UAE (and therefore Dubai) in 1995. The current network is supported by a bandwidth of 6 GB, with 50,000 dialup and 150,000 broadband ports. Dubai houses two of four DNS data centers in the country (DXBNIC1, DXBNIC2)[90]. Internet content is regulated in Dubai. Etisalat uses a proxy server to filter internet content that is deemed to be inconsistent with the values of the country, that provides information on bypassing the proxy, dating, gay and lesbian networks, sites pertaining to the Bahá'í faith, and sites originating from Israel. Additionally, VoIP services such as Skype that challenge Etisalat's monopoly over international calling as well as multimedia sharing and social networking websites such as Flickr, Lastfm, Hi5 and Orkut are blocked"EOQ
The entry seems a bit hay-wire the positioning of the phrase "that provides information on bypassing the proxy" mind you ...
Either way, it seems that the proxy server is far from dead.
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
I typed that I thought an even better way would be for a rating system like happens before TV programs.
This site is rated MA15+ as it contains sexual content (or whatever). Mature viewing is recommended.
That indeed would be inline with current laws governing broadcastable material and may well be the "middle ground" that is finally settled upon as a compromise in the long run.
And compromise is generally how these things work when it comes to "Government Initiatives", yes ? First they work out what they are prepared to settle for, then the present a couple of objectionable solutions of varying offensiveness, and then are seen to be giving in to public wishes by implementing the lesser of the deemed evils; The People reckon they have had a win, and The Government have the solution they were prepared to accept in the first place.
Part of the Hegelian approach for the Powers That Be to Get Things Done ?
regarDS
This site is rated MA15+ as it contains sexual content (or whatever). Mature viewing is recommended.
That indeed would be inline with current laws governing broadcastable material and may well be the "middle ground" that is finally settled upon as a compromise in the long run.
And compromise is generally how these things work when it comes to "Government Initiatives", yes ? First they work out what they are prepared to settle for, then the present a couple of objectionable solutions of varying offensiveness, and then are seen to be giving in to public wishes by implementing the lesser of the deemed evils; The People reckon they have had a win, and The Government have the solution they were prepared to accept in the first place.
Part of the Hegelian approach for the Powers That Be to Get Things Done ?
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Derspatz, do you not agree that perhaps people should rise up against the religious far rights pushing for control of the masses through censorship? Or are you one of the religious sheep that try to push your beliefs onto others?
Neither/Nor.
I don't see the first of that happening; I see the a more middle/middle-to-right ground trying to be maintained, and one that I am in support of. That being said, if it happens to help bring the down-fall for a long time to come of the ALP, then it is a "Win-Win" AFAIC. :)
No to the second, as per: http://derblatz.blogspot.com/2008/11/posted-whirlpool-ilcf-pt5_4744.html
regarDS
Neither/Nor.
I don't see the first of that happening; I see the a more middle/middle-to-right ground trying to be maintained, and one that I am in support of. That being said, if it happens to help bring the down-fall for a long time to come of the ALP, then it is a "Win-Win" AFAIC. :)
No to the second, as per: http://derblatz.blogspot.com/2008/11/posted-whirlpool-ilcf-pt5_4744.html
regarDS
Wednesday, December 03, 2008
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
If parents are too stupid to protect their own children from dangers in the home, then they don't deserve to be parents.
No argument there. Which is why our elected government is obliged to step in as best can be managed.
As in "intervention", etc.
regarDS
No argument there. Which is why our elected government is obliged to step in as best can be managed.
As in "intervention", etc.
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Perhaps if you chose to see my efforts in here more akin to "lighthouse warning ships of the rocks and reef - derspatz
Perhaps that is what the filter should do. Warn you that are you about to view something that the government doesn't want you to see and ask you if you want to continue. Think of your well known Perth band The Waifs.
Lighthouse man can’t help us all
Some he’ll save and some will fall
He’ll show you where the danger lies
But he can’t help it if you capsize
He’ll light your way but that is all
Steer your own ship back to shore
The "skull and cross-bones" and "warning, danger Will Robinson" audio-visual pop-up could be part of the solution, along with the SMSing of a responsible Adult if you like. There are going to be many ways of approaching this required to get the job done properly.
I like the lyrics you provided (which are somewhat topical ... I certainly get your gist) but never heard of the band nor could actually name anything they have done mind you.
No radio on the motor-bike, no radio antenna on the 4x4.
How is that for an example for filtering at the user end of things rather than at the provider side ? :)
regarDS
Perhaps that is what the filter should do. Warn you that are you about to view something that the government doesn't want you to see and ask you if you want to continue. Think of your well known Perth band The Waifs.
Lighthouse man can’t help us all
Some he’ll save and some will fall
He’ll show you where the danger lies
But he can’t help it if you capsize
He’ll light your way but that is all
Steer your own ship back to shore
The "skull and cross-bones" and "warning, danger Will Robinson" audio-visual pop-up could be part of the solution, along with the SMSing of a responsible Adult if you like. There are going to be many ways of approaching this required to get the job done properly.
I like the lyrics you provided (which are somewhat topical ... I certainly get your gist) but never heard of the band nor could actually name anything they have done mind you.
No radio on the motor-bike, no radio antenna on the 4x4.
How is that for an example for filtering at the user end of things rather than at the provider side ? :)
regarDS
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