Taking a break.
Visit http://derspatz.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-up-stand-up-getup-for-your-lefts.html should you ever miss me and/or need a bit of annoying. :)
regarDS
Thursday, December 04, 2008
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Eeeek, this thread seems to have gone mad. Anti-"religion" oozing out of every other keyboard and pore and to compound that (on the subject of poor), we've now apparently got money being thrown at a new hopeless cause.
Which, come to think of it, is somewhat ironic considering the charge being levelled at ILCF being an alleged waste of money !
Oh well. Prolly silly to be part of this topic ATM – maybe I'll return to it when it becomes a little more sensible.
To paraphrase one Captain Oates, "I am just going offline and may be some time."
regarDS
Which, come to think of it, is somewhat ironic considering the charge being levelled at ILCF being an alleged waste of money !
Oh well. Prolly silly to be part of this topic ATM – maybe I'll return to it when it becomes a little more sensible.
To paraphrase one Captain Oates, "I am just going offline and may be some time."
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Thought some might find this interesting re: Internet control in the UAE. From wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai
SOQ
"Etisalat, the government owned telecommunications provider, held a virtual monopoly over telecommunication services in Dubai prior to the establishment of other, smaller telecommunications companies such as Emirates Integrated Telecommunications Company (EITC — better known as Du) in 2006. Internet was introduced into the UAE (and therefore Dubai) in 1995. The current network is supported by a bandwidth of 6 GB, with 50,000 dialup and 150,000 broadband ports. Dubai houses two of four DNS data centers in the country (DXBNIC1, DXBNIC2)[90]. Internet content is regulated in Dubai. Etisalat uses a proxy server to filter internet content that is deemed to be inconsistent with the values of the country, that provides information on bypassing the proxy, dating, gay and lesbian networks, sites pertaining to the Bahá'í faith, and sites originating from Israel. Additionally, VoIP services such as Skype that challenge Etisalat's monopoly over international calling as well as multimedia sharing and social networking websites such as Flickr, Lastfm, Hi5 and Orkut are blocked"EOQ
The entry seems a bit hay-wire the positioning of the phrase "that provides information on bypassing the proxy" mind you ...
Either way, it seems that the proxy server is far from dead.
regarDS
SOQ
"Etisalat, the government owned telecommunications provider, held a virtual monopoly over telecommunication services in Dubai prior to the establishment of other, smaller telecommunications companies such as Emirates Integrated Telecommunications Company (EITC — better known as Du) in 2006. Internet was introduced into the UAE (and therefore Dubai) in 1995. The current network is supported by a bandwidth of 6 GB, with 50,000 dialup and 150,000 broadband ports. Dubai houses two of four DNS data centers in the country (DXBNIC1, DXBNIC2)[90]. Internet content is regulated in Dubai. Etisalat uses a proxy server to filter internet content that is deemed to be inconsistent with the values of the country, that provides information on bypassing the proxy, dating, gay and lesbian networks, sites pertaining to the Bahá'í faith, and sites originating from Israel. Additionally, VoIP services such as Skype that challenge Etisalat's monopoly over international calling as well as multimedia sharing and social networking websites such as Flickr, Lastfm, Hi5 and Orkut are blocked"EOQ
The entry seems a bit hay-wire the positioning of the phrase "that provides information on bypassing the proxy" mind you ...
Either way, it seems that the proxy server is far from dead.
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
I typed that I thought an even better way would be for a rating system like happens before TV programs.
This site is rated MA15+ as it contains sexual content (or whatever). Mature viewing is recommended.
That indeed would be inline with current laws governing broadcastable material and may well be the "middle ground" that is finally settled upon as a compromise in the long run.
And compromise is generally how these things work when it comes to "Government Initiatives", yes ? First they work out what they are prepared to settle for, then the present a couple of objectionable solutions of varying offensiveness, and then are seen to be giving in to public wishes by implementing the lesser of the deemed evils; The People reckon they have had a win, and The Government have the solution they were prepared to accept in the first place.
Part of the Hegelian approach for the Powers That Be to Get Things Done ?
regarDS
This site is rated MA15+ as it contains sexual content (or whatever). Mature viewing is recommended.
That indeed would be inline with current laws governing broadcastable material and may well be the "middle ground" that is finally settled upon as a compromise in the long run.
And compromise is generally how these things work when it comes to "Government Initiatives", yes ? First they work out what they are prepared to settle for, then the present a couple of objectionable solutions of varying offensiveness, and then are seen to be giving in to public wishes by implementing the lesser of the deemed evils; The People reckon they have had a win, and The Government have the solution they were prepared to accept in the first place.
Part of the Hegelian approach for the Powers That Be to Get Things Done ?
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Derspatz, do you not agree that perhaps people should rise up against the religious far rights pushing for control of the masses through censorship? Or are you one of the religious sheep that try to push your beliefs onto others?
Neither/Nor.
I don't see the first of that happening; I see the a more middle/middle-to-right ground trying to be maintained, and one that I am in support of. That being said, if it happens to help bring the down-fall for a long time to come of the ALP, then it is a "Win-Win" AFAIC. :)
No to the second, as per: http://derblatz.blogspot.com/2008/11/posted-whirlpool-ilcf-pt5_4744.html
regarDS
Neither/Nor.
I don't see the first of that happening; I see the a more middle/middle-to-right ground trying to be maintained, and one that I am in support of. That being said, if it happens to help bring the down-fall for a long time to come of the ALP, then it is a "Win-Win" AFAIC. :)
No to the second, as per: http://derblatz.blogspot.com/2008/11/posted-whirlpool-ilcf-pt5_4744.html
regarDS
Wednesday, December 03, 2008
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
If parents are too stupid to protect their own children from dangers in the home, then they don't deserve to be parents.
No argument there. Which is why our elected government is obliged to step in as best can be managed.
As in "intervention", etc.
regarDS
No argument there. Which is why our elected government is obliged to step in as best can be managed.
As in "intervention", etc.
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Perhaps if you chose to see my efforts in here more akin to "lighthouse warning ships of the rocks and reef - derspatz
Perhaps that is what the filter should do. Warn you that are you about to view something that the government doesn't want you to see and ask you if you want to continue. Think of your well known Perth band The Waifs.
Lighthouse man can’t help us all
Some he’ll save and some will fall
He’ll show you where the danger lies
But he can’t help it if you capsize
He’ll light your way but that is all
Steer your own ship back to shore
The "skull and cross-bones" and "warning, danger Will Robinson" audio-visual pop-up could be part of the solution, along with the SMSing of a responsible Adult if you like. There are going to be many ways of approaching this required to get the job done properly.
I like the lyrics you provided (which are somewhat topical ... I certainly get your gist) but never heard of the band nor could actually name anything they have done mind you.
No radio on the motor-bike, no radio antenna on the 4x4.
How is that for an example for filtering at the user end of things rather than at the provider side ? :)
regarDS
Perhaps that is what the filter should do. Warn you that are you about to view something that the government doesn't want you to see and ask you if you want to continue. Think of your well known Perth band The Waifs.
Lighthouse man can’t help us all
Some he’ll save and some will fall
He’ll show you where the danger lies
But he can’t help it if you capsize
He’ll light your way but that is all
Steer your own ship back to shore
The "skull and cross-bones" and "warning, danger Will Robinson" audio-visual pop-up could be part of the solution, along with the SMSing of a responsible Adult if you like. There are going to be many ways of approaching this required to get the job done properly.
I like the lyrics you provided (which are somewhat topical ... I certainly get your gist) but never heard of the band nor could actually name anything they have done mind you.
No radio on the motor-bike, no radio antenna on the 4x4.
How is that for an example for filtering at the user end of things rather than at the provider side ? :)
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
The government is elected by us, for us. They work for us. If they aren't working for us, there is no point having them, we may as well fire them.
No problem with that, except you missed the bit where "they ARE us".
IE, just a bunch of public servants who prolly get into the job because they aren't much good at anything else and also because they enjoy trying to tell people what to do a bit more than the next bloke, but still not all that different from the next bloke.
regarDS
No problem with that, except you missed the bit where "they ARE us".
IE, just a bunch of public servants who prolly get into the job because they aren't much good at anything else and also because they enjoy trying to tell people what to do a bit more than the next bloke, but still not all that different from the next bloke.
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
Are you part of the conspiracy or merely an innocent chump who has been taken in by misleading promises of child protection?
Which reads as "Have you stopped beating your wife yet ?"
Rest assured that my motivations and views have nothing to do with popular conspiracies and go way beyond mere child protection.
As I'm sure both Mark and Richary can confirm.
Heck, they could also confirm that when it comes to proving a point and how serious I am with my views, I'm also known to spend my own coin in very Real World (ala "offline") ways.
regarDS
Which reads as "Have you stopped beating your wife yet ?"
Rest assured that my motivations and views have nothing to do with popular conspiracies and go way beyond mere child protection.
As I'm sure both Mark and Richary can confirm.
Heck, they could also confirm that when it comes to proving a point and how serious I am with my views, I'm also known to spend my own coin in very Real World (ala "offline") ways.
regarDS
Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt15
he was preaching the monumental failure of NetAlert because noone adopted it, yet he claims that there is public desire for this mandatory filtering.
He makes no sense.
I reckon it makes perfect sense in the context of a high probability that many folk who do want filtering for their kids/families/etc found/find it all too hard to actually figure out how to do it themselves and would much prefer a system where it is all done for them much like how their ISP takes care of spam filtering for them.
regarDS
He makes no sense.
I reckon it makes perfect sense in the context of a high probability that many folk who do want filtering for their kids/families/etc found/find it all too hard to actually figure out how to do it themselves and would much prefer a system where it is all done for them much like how their ISP takes care of spam filtering for them.
regarDS
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