Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

Then there's a change of Government, and the Libs say, "Hang on, strike action is almost always illegal these days, lets add trade unions who advocate for strikes to the blacklist. After all, it's a long-held principle that advocating for illegal actions is, itself, illegal. Just look at what we've done with euthanasia sites!"

Ummm, does this mean you are now trying to sell us on the filter, coz based on that, if I wasn't absolutely totally for it before, I certainly am now ! :) :)

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

further try to do that with a 13 yr old+ they will tell a parent to go and relocate themselve's amongst some further stronger words I would say

Any 13yr old who would talk to a parent anywhere near what you just suggested, is a strong indication that the parent has long since failed at being a parent ... which only goes to argue in favour of The Filters.

After all, if parents can't control their kids any more and the kids have no respect for anything the parents say or want them to do, then there really is no choice but to apply a heavier hand from higher up.

In short, if what you are saying is true, then Oz has brought this upon itself ... and even then it is probably too little too late.

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

derspatz writes...Admittedly, in their worlds free of spam,

that system assumes that people care what others think of them.

the fact that known spammers (and criminals) continue to spam

Oh, I should have described it a little better. At least one of the mentioned authors described in detail the fictional email/messaging system that made spam all but impossible. Once again, it involved everyone having their own permanent implant id/email address and no such thing as an anon id, nor the ability to create bogus ones. As the sending of anything was all biometrically linked, the only way a spammer could get their message out without giving themselves away, was to drug and kidnap someone and use their interface ... but in a world of constant passive surveillance etc, etc, etc, it wasn't worth the trouble.

Anyway, do you think we are going to end up with similar sorts of communication systems described in popular sci-fi ? Do you think we will end up opting for implants in relation to ID, debit/credit, network/voip access and the like ? Actually RFID implants for ID and debit/credit are already being used here and there if you care to look it up ... so how long before it is far more common along with imbedded mobile phone type devices that are also linked into the web to skype over to anywhere it can be tapped into ?

I reckon it and a whole lot more is all closer than we might imagine. No wonder the Power That Be want to try and get in with a level of greater control now ...

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

he was responding to derspatz who can only get 256/64

I can get whatever speed I want, 256/64 is all I'm prepared to pay for, and I mainly only did that so the phone was freed up for my partner to use. I'm just not driven to keep up with the latest and greatest while it still isn't all that great.

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

So how do you propose the new internet without any control from ISPs or government will make people safer?

Policy4 ? :)

Actually, I more prefer the ideas on the subject by authors Ian M. Banks and Peter F. Hamilton, and truth be told, I've no memory of ever reading Gibson.

Admittedly, in their worlds free of spam, with complete free'n'easy access to any sort of information at any time (including pr0n), a lot of historical/traceable data retained in worlds having much in the way of passive surveillance and wet-ware identification systems rendering anonymity pointless and impractical considering a lack of non electronic legal tender, all makes for illegal behaviour somewhat difficult to get away with.

Which works as a great deterrent ... well, at least in print.

No point asking me the details on how it will be done, for I too am mostly one of those useless consumers along for the ride these days. I really would love to see the end of our reliance on ISPs and telcos though.

[whole bunch of probably unworkable ideas typed in then deleted ... maybe another time]

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

Enjoying your glorified dial up?

It serves, [deleted], it serves.

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

did I miss anything?

Yes, how about if everyone goes to VPNing and the filters are left guarding a figurative empty cell ?

The Government will be happy enough because they will be able to say they did everything they could/was expected of them, and move on to doing the next thing on the list required to keep their voters onboard.

At the end of the day, Senator Conroy only wants to look good so he keeps his job for as long as he can and take home the biggest guarenteed super/benfits package at the end of it all ...

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

derspatz writes...The Hebrew letters engraved into the very ring I'm always wearing, Maniac. :)

hehe this is the hebrew letters i have לנשוך את התחת שלי

Ouch, I bet that was unpleasant to have tattooed. :)

Shalom

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

This cause is useless.

When your old, you can tell your grandkids you fought to keep child porn on the net. I am sure they will appreciate that.

Bwahahaha. Post of the day I reckon.

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt5

no how are things with 256/64 ??? we want to know ...

A little bit faster than dialup if you remember what that was like, [deleted].

Anyway, isn't this proposed ISP level content filtering going to give you everything you need to know about experiencing 256/64 ? :)

regarDS