Tuesday, November 04, 2008

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

Are you sure he's from Perth?

Perth/York these days.

IT shift-worker type (4 days on, 4 days off, 12hr shifts) if it is any help or relevance. Think of a big international company that specialises in IT type stuff ... oh, and add Z/OS MVS/JES2 mainframe to the equation.

I'm a dinosaur and my preferred hardware is of similar impressiveness and resilience.

However, praise The Great Compiler for TCP/IP ... and the cluey types wise enough to meld it with MVS mainframe.

Hmmm ... I wonder if that big international company I didn't mention is IPv6 ready !

Rest assured that it ain't going to give a crap about ISP level content filtering coz it is already filtering things pretty well (I couldn't even look up Melbourne Cup race start time today ... but it doesn't have a prob with WP :)), and we already VPN so much that it would be safer to assume that one is VPNed into something than not ...

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

some isp.s care about what is happening with this issue, others do not care and some have an opinion and some dont

I reckon most don't care all that much at all other than how much of the promised tax payer millions they can get and deny their competition of.

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

That is the guise to which they are pretending to want to do it.

Careful now richary, you don't want to start sounding like a certain conspiracy minded little bird from a certain era. ;)

If it is automatic then there is even more chance of false positives and the opposite.

As Darwin and Dawkins might say ... "adapt or die".

But seriously, folk who find their sites being false positive affected will soon change things so that they don't.

Speed hit ? Will any of us notice if this sort of thing is rolled out with the promised faster notwork ?

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

Derspatz you're too old to get facebook, but Carl is all too correct. Nobody would join unless they felt motivated about the issue..

http://www.facebook.com/people/David_Sparrow/678208248

As the pic indicates ... Cheers. :)

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

Much like the most sophisticated net users will be hardly bothered by filters for the masses.

... and what sort of ratio of "sophisticated net users" to "masses" do you think you might be able to cook up (with a serve of home grown garden salad even) for the forum ?

Or more importantly, which group do you think Senator Conroy et al is more interested in the opinions of ?

Hint, not many from in here ... and certainly no one under the age of 21ish (or even somewhat more), and certainly no one at all under the age of 18.

I wonder how many of the 11,000 facebook group members (even before taking away those who have no prob with the filtering and have just joined the group to take a look) that leaves ...

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

They loves them some non lethal methods, them fine dutiful police persons. Upstanding bastions of peace and civility.

... and you are all the more likely to behave yourself because of it ?

I can imagine the keyboards of the future. In order to use them one will have to link a biometric ID checking lead from the keyboard to a conductive wristband (with optional clips for other areas if that is your warped preference) and every link you attempt that is on the "naughty" list, a suitably leveled shock is returned instead.

Oh, and every time you type something nice, a lovely voice will exclaim from the bowels of the machine "that's a Good Citizen ... your country is proud of you" or "thank you for thinking of the children" ala "thank you for choosing value wrap" from the PC game "SystemShock2". :)

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

I already told you that you shouldn't make rational decisions.

Quote of the day, anyone ? :)

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

how is making those who use the internet to commit crime go underground and to use methods which makes it near impossible authorities to monitor and therefore catch these criminals a safer country?

Will it ? Has anyone put the question to those involved in crime prevention ?

Someone want to put $2 on newport no: 17 for me ? I'm being filtered. :)

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

Are you seriously advocating that the Government should have unlimited potential to break the law, by levying punishments without legally-required due process?

I'm seriously advocating that just as our elected governments ensure our nation's departments in relation to administering law and order are committed to crime prevention and peace keeping offline, that the same be applied online.

Better to prevent a crime from happening (especially when such prevention can be reasonably achieved to a reasonable level) than have to deal with it after the fact.

If you don't believe in that, then feel free to take down your firewalls, spam filters, virus checkers, security screens and doors, start leaving your vehicles unlocked and the keys in them, and start protesting to the government about all the money spent on paying the police and armed forces for being on patrol.

The proposed filter IS all about prevention, isn't it ... and not too much different to the many many layers of prevention that you both use and support already ?

BTW, I'm sure many readers in here will be interested to know when the ISP you are employed by is going to throw away its firewalling etc ... although somehow I think it would be more from the point of view of moving to another ISP than supporting such an idea.

regarDS

Posted @ whirlpool - ILCF pt7

A bit like this crazy lawless and selfish notion of some sort of deserved god given right to unfettered uncontrolled/unmoderated/ungoverned internut access just because one has access to a feed and a device to connect with, really ...

and that relates to: "It's not going to stop stalkers, murders rapists, thefts, break ins etc.... Because you don't need the Internet for that..............", how ?

Who is actually suggesting that ISP level content filtering has anything to do with those things, let alone be expected to help prevent them ?

Need I say further?

You do, but probably shouldn't bother. There, I've given you the out you so obviously need.

regarDS